God’s Science v. 4.5 The Science of Jesus FOOTNOTES






Vol. 4 The Science, the Second Coming, of Jesus



The Destruction of Heaven;

The Resurrection of God on Earth,

Through Science





Part 1


The Bible, God, Refer to

A Science of God



For an explicit Biblical command to follow “science,” see Dan. 1.14-15 KJE. For references to God commanding us to use scientific, experimental method, applied to Judeo-Christianity, see Dan 1.4-15; 1 Kings 18.21-40; Mal. 3.10 ff; etc..

The Bible itself warns constantly about false, bad things in our holiest men and angels. Therefore, religion and Christianity in particular, was never supposed to be “faith-based”; religion, Christianity, is supposed to be science-based  (Dan. 1.4-15 KJE; Deut. 18.21-22; Mal. 3.10, etc.).  Perhaps we are not to “tempt” God.  But we are commanded to carefully, scientifically “test” everything” in life and religion (1 Thess. 5.21; Mal. 3.10; 1 Ti 3.10; Gen. 42.15; Ps. 11.5, 66.10,; Ecc. 7.23; Jer. 9.7, Lam. 3.40; Dan. 1.12; Zech. 13.9.  If God seems to tell us that “thou shalt not test,” God, other translations, rightly translate that are not “tempt”ing God  Luke 4.12 RSV).  We should not test God’s patience with immoralities; but in contrast, we are commanded to scientifically test everything, as it turns out here, with real “science” (Dan. 1.4-15 KJE, Deut. 18.20 ff; 1 Kings 18.21-39).  

Indeed, we are to examine everything in religion to see if it is really from God or not … by using science, the observation of how things work out or “come to pass” here, on this material, physical earth:


“How may we know a word the LORD has not spoken?’ – when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you need not be afraid of him” ” Deut. 18.21-22. 

“Beware of false prophets…. Thus you … know them by their fruits” (Mat. 7.15-20).  Then Ps. 139.7; 1 Kin. 8.23-9.2; & St. Paul; italics, mine. 


Note that Jesus’ apparent injunction not to “test” God, is often better translated as telling us not to “tempt” him with immoralities; as in the phrase the “Temptation of Christ.”  Since indeed, we are even commanded to “test” religion, God, in Malachi:


“Put me to the test says the LORD” (Mal. 3.10).

“Test everything” (1 Thess. 5.21).


Are these spiritual tests of some sort? At times St. Paul and others seemed to attack attention to “things on this earth” (Col. 3.1-3); but for the importance of using material evidence from the “earth,” and science, to discover what is good, see also Gen. 1.10; Isa. 1.18, 1.21-24, 6.3, 26.9, 29.4, 42.1-5, 65.16; Ps. 37.3, 104.24; Ps. 115.6; Ps. 115.16; Job 28.2-25; Sirach 37.27; John 12.25 vs. 12.47 & 3.16; 1 Corin 1.28, 10.26; Col. 1.16-20, Col. 1.19-20;  Rom. 1.20; Ps. 37.11; Matt. 8.3-4, 6.33.


“Do I not fill heaven and earth?” Jer. 23.34.

“In him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible” (Col. 1.16).  


For more on the supreme importance of knowing God through observation of nature, knowing God through looking at material things, and sometimes specifically through “science,” see:  Job 28.2-25; Jer. 31.35-7; Prov. 1.22; Prov. 25.2-3; Isa. 7.10-14, Isa. 1.21-24;  Mat. 7.20; Mark 2.10-12; Luke 21.24, 21.25, 21.27, 21.29; 1 John 4.1; John 10.17-18 NAB, John 14.10-12; Rom. 14.1, Rom. 8.28 NWT, ref. Ps. 145.17; John 9.3;  Rev. 2.2, 11.1; Titus 2.16.  And technology and practical knowledge, in Catholic Bibles:  Wis. Sol. 1.1-7; 7.16-17; 8.5-17 vs. 13.1-14.7; 16.17; 19.11-21.  Also 1 Kings 4.29-33;  Dan. 2.60-81.   For a more complete survey, see our entire chapters on Science, Asceticism, and latter, Matter.

We are to examine the real material “prosperity” that comes from each saying attributed to God; its real material “fruits,” “works,” “signs,” “deeds,” “proofs,” here on this material “earth,” as “observ“ed and “test”ed with “science,” and observation of what or what “does not come to pass” (Deut. 18.20 ff), here, on this earth, in a timely way; “soon,” “at hand,” “presently,” the “time is near,” “quickly,” in at least a “generation.”  (While rejecting St. Peter’s suggestion that soon might mean thousands of years; since Jesus called Peter “Satan”).   In this way, we use God’s Science; and in this way we next find, the better outline of God, and Truth; of what is Good.  For biblical quotes telling us to “test”: “put me to the test, saith the LORD,” Mal. 3.10 RSV; “test everything,”1 Thess. 5.21. 

And this is not the forbidden “test”ing God’s patience; this is testing life, with real science.

As for spirituality? There are many warnings we will see about false spirits. And we are to test even them; “test the spirits” (John?). And this turns out in context here, not to be just John’s testing of them, by a loyalty oath.

While even the spirit is known by looking at things that are visible; “invisible” and “spiritual” things are important, we are to know even spirits, even Paul admitted … mostly by way of the visible, material things they effect:

“Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made” (Rom. 1.20 RSV).

And can we test even the holiest men and angels and preachers? Most importantly, the Bible warns constantly that our holiest men are often deceived, deceptive. And so it describes at length several sessions where holy men describe in great detail, how we are to scientifically test holy men, for real material results. As in Dan. 1.4-15; 2 Kings 18.20ff ? (Ezekiel); Malachi 2-3; Deut. etc. (See our OT section).



Part 2


Warnings By God

Of False Things In

All Our Holiest Men and Angels

Bad things in All Christian Priests, Ministers



Why do we need a science of God? Why not just listen faithfully to our preachers? And let them lead us to truth? The reason is in part … that God warned our preachers and holy men – even the apostles and saints and angels in heaven itself – are not reliable.

Our preachers have always read to us just parts of the Bible; especially the parts that seem to tell us that our preachers and holy men, are all but absolutely reliable and good.  But our preachers left out, or “twisted” or “whitewashed,” seventy or a hundred parts of the Bible … that warned that there would always be bad and “false” things in all holy things, even in Christianity,  even after Jesus and so forth.  Bad things to the End of Time … and/or until the Apocalyptic coming of God’s science.

For a look at the whole side of the Bible, of God, that priests denied and hid and twisted, for seventy or a hundred or more scriptural, Bible references to bad things in religion, including Christianity – and the desirability to use science to find out what they are – here is a good biography:

For scriptural references to false and bad things in religion, even in the Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition:  the Bible itself says, there are sins, errors, in effectively “all” religion“All have sinned” (Rom. 3.23);  “if we say we have no sins, we deceive ourselves” (1 John 1.8); “if we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar” (1 John 1.10). 

Indeed, as we will see here, even “all” our religions – including Christianity – are full of bad, “false” things; “false prophets” (Jer. 23.23 ff, etc).  Even the angels and saints in our “present” Christian heaven itself are bad (Job 4.18; 13.4; 15.15; Rev. 12.7, etc.). “All” have sinned.  And “all” in heaven are to fall:


“All the host of heaven shall rot away, and the skies roll up like a scroll.  All their host shall fall, as leaves fall from the vine, like leaves falling from the fig tree. For my sword has drunk its fill in the heavens; behold, it descends for judgement…” (Isa. 34.4-5). 

“The heavens … that now exist have been stored up for fire…” (said Peter, in 2 Peter 7.7).

Preachers like to tell us that whenever God notices sin or error in holy men, that means everybody else, but our preachers today. But we will find, sins in “all.” And it becomes clear that means … sins in even the saints and angels in heaven.  Which will of course mean that our preachers today, who followed heaven, will have erred too. That is why finally, our childhood, naive sense of religion – our heaven – is being destroyed, for bad things in it.  In order to show a more “mature” “knowledge” of God. 

After generally noting God warning of sins in “all,” even all in heaven, note specific criticisms – of first, of bad things in angels. Whose name means messengers from heaven. Who have sins:  “Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting agains the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven” (Rev. 12.7-8 Revised Standard Version); “Even his angels he charges with error” (Job 4.18); “all the host of heaven will rot away” (Isa. 34.4).  and “God did not spare the angels when they sinned” (2 Peter 2.4); “To what angel has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand’?” (Heb. 2.5).  “It was not to angels that God subjected the world” (Heb. 2.5). “Satan disguises himself as an angel of light” (2 Corin. 11.14). “Neither death, nor life, nor angels” (Rom. 8.38). “To the angel of the church … I have not found your works perfect in the sight of my God” (Rev. 3.2, also 2.4, 2.13-14-16, 2.18-20; 3.14-19). When someone bows down to an angel, this happens:  “Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, ‘You must not do that!  I am a fellow servant with you and your comrades…. Worship God!” (Rev. 19.10 NRSV). This is indeed the great sin in churchgoers:   they are following, worshiping the words of priests, who are angels, “messengers” from God … but they forget that most messengers, angels, are unreliable:  worship God himself, as he exists apart from all merely human characterizations of him.

See also warnings about false “apostles,” plural; more than a) Judas (John 21.20-24).  Shockingly, shatteringly, b) St. Peter once told Jesus that Jesus was wrong in something, “rebuking” Jesus (Mat. 16.22) … and c) then Jesus called St. Peter “Satan,” in Mat. 16.23:  “He turned and said to Peter, ‘Get behind me, Satan!  You are a hindrance [“stumbling block”] to me; for you are not on the side of God, but of men.'”  Then d) St. James then admitting of himself and other apostles no doubt:  “we all make many mistakes” (James 2.2).  Then e) St. Paul admitting he himself, at the time when he wrote his part of the Bible, was “not … perfect” (Php. 3.12). .  Regarding  “James the son of Zebedee, and f) John his brother” (Mat. 10.2), “the mother of the sons of Zebedee came up to him and asked … ‘Command that these who dons of mine may sit, one at your right hands and one at your left, in your kingdom.’  But Jesus answered, ‘You do not know what you are asking …. to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant.'” (Mat. 20.20).   Confirming Jesus – who called Peter “Satan,” and noted he would “deny” him many times –  Paul too noted problems with St. Peter or “Cephas” as well:  “‘Cephas’ (which means Peter)” (John 1.42); “But when Cephas [Peter] came to Antioch I opposed him to his face, because he … acted insincerely” (Gal. 2.11, 13).   While indeed, all the disciples fled and abandoned Jesus, when the Romans came to arrest him (Mark 14.50).  At times, preachers will try to say that churches and others “test”ed apostles, and found out all that were false, and left them or books attributed to them, out of our Bibles:  as when Revelations congratulated those who “tested those who call themselves apostles but are not, and found them to be false” (Rev. 2.2).  But even those churches who did such “test”ing were themselves, Revelations itself notes, not perfect in every way; Ephesus which did the testing is supported in some ways.  But then opposed in part:  “But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love that you had at first” (Rev. 2.4); while other elements of other early Christian churches were also not “perfect” in every way (Rev. 3.2).   While indeed, even those of the Twelve Apostles who were accepted, who were canonically accepted into our Bibles as authors of the gospels … are often found false by Jesus, God, above. And if the Twelve Apostles themselves were unreliable, then …?  Who which preacher today is better than them?

Then too in effect, believers and congregations, who are “hypocrites.” And even those who are sincere, but mistaken. Those who cry, acknowledge “Lord, Lord,” but who are following a false idea of Christ. Warning them to look for false things in themselves; criticizing others for the “speck” in their eye … while ignoring the “beam” in their own eye (q.v.).   Though many think they are good, many who think they are “first” in the eye of God, are “last” in the End; and though many “judge” others to be bad, they themselves will be judged.  And ultimately, only God himself knows who is good and who is bad; only God judges in the Last Judgment. Congregations (Titus 1.12-13; Gal. 1.2-8; Revelations 1-3).   We all make mistakes James 3? See also false things “among us” in Peter, etc..

Related to sins in congregations, specifically Christian churches can be bad; see Paul’s criticism of the churches of Galatia and Ephesus, in “Galatians,” and “Ephesians”; or Revelation’s criticism of many churches, Rev. 2.3. Related to this, see “congregations,” etc..

“False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect” (Mark 13.22).  “If some one comes and preachers another Jesus than the one we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you submit to it readily enough” (2 Corin. 11.4).  

Priests often claim that they themselves, or congregations, if they quote Jesus, his “name,” are protected from sin or error (after 1 John 4? Acts. 2.21);  but … Jesus said many would call “Lord, Lord,” and yet still be wrong (Luke 7.21).  And (Luke 6.46, 13.25), it is not just because they say the name, but don’t do the deeds; it is also … because most who thought they were following God, will be found to actually have been following a “false christ.” 

While indeed there are many bad, false boasts and claims in religion (Isa.15.6).  

Even a “Christ” can be bad: see warnings about false or “anti” Christs too (1 John 2.18-4.3).  “False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect” (Mark 13.22).  “If some one comes and preaches another Jesus than the one we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you submit to it readily enough” (2 Corin. 11.4).  There are warnings about false christs, and surprisingly, warnings even of Jesus himself (Gal. 3.13; “Christ redeemed us from the cure of the law, having become a curse for us – or it is written, ‘Cursed be every one who hands on a tree'”).  By Jesus himself in (Mat. 19.17:  “Why callest me good” KJE? ; etc.).  Indeed, many false or “anti-Christ”s has already come, even in the time of Christ or John:  “many antichrists have come…. They went out from us” (1 John 2.18,19).  And if John thought they were “not of us,” with John and true followers, it is presently impossible to know which are the true followers of John; indeed, Christ himself would not promise any particular status to John, when his mother asked for that.  Regarding  “James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother” (Mat. 10.2), “the mother of the sons of Zebedee came up to him and asked … ‘Command that these who dons of mine may sit, one at your right hands and one at your left, in your kingdom.’  But Jesus answered, ‘You do not know what you are asking …. to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant.'” (Mat. 20.20).  

Bad Christians: see sins in even the “household of God,” and those who follow “Christ” but are following a false idea of him; others who cry and acknowledge the “name” of Christ, “Lord, Lord,” and yet are hypocrites, or deceived. As even the “present” heaven of Christianity is destroyed too; see also 2 Peter 2.1, Jude 4, false things “among you.”

Most priests and churches claim that they, or their church, have weeded out any false things.  But related to the above and below, there are things even in the first, holy Christian churches overseen even by apostles in person
(Rev. 2.4, 2.20, 3.2; all of Galatians, etc.   “To the angel of the church … I have not found your works perfect in the sight of my God” (Rev. 3.2, also 2.4, 2.13-14-16, 2.18-20; 3.14-19).  “Do not trust in these deceptive words, ‘This is the temple of the LORD'” (Jer. 7.4). Will God live in a house built with human hands, also, asks Solomon; Jesus had to clean out the temple.  “Do you now know that you are God’s temple” (1 Corin. 3.16). 

As for councilors? There are bad “councilor”s (Sirach 37.8). 

And of course problems in pleasant lies, illusions, enchantments (Isa. 47.1-12-16).

And false gods (Isa. 41.23-4 etc.).

Problems with hearts. (Gen. 6.5, 42.238; Ex. 7.13, 9.14; Numb 32.9; 2 Sam. 15.6; Job 15.35; Ps. 10.3, 12.2, 73.7; Prov. 6.14-18, 10.2; Mat. 15.19; Mark 7.21; Rom. 1.21; James 4.8).

 There are even bad things in heaven itself; indeed to the point that heaven itself is to be destroyed; citing mainly Jesus in Mark 13.31-2; then 2 Peter 3.7-14; Isaiah 24.21, 34.1-10 & 24.1-21, 51.6, 64.1-66.22; Rev. 6.12, 9.1, 8.12, 12.4, 21.1; Mat. 24; 1 Kings 8.27.  For Muslims:  Koran 11.108, 14.48.  See also the literally hundreds of references in the Bible, and Quran, to a “day” or “fire” and “judgment”; the day when the Lord comes to earth, to judge and destroy evil; the Day of the Lord; Judgment Day; the End Time; the Apocalypse.  Including Isa. 2.2; Mal. 3.2; Mat. 24.22; Mark 13.31; Acts 17.31; 2 Peter 3.8? (See also the “household of God”).

Even the Holy Spirit can be faked by a false spirit it seems, 2 Corin. 11.14 etc/; or even the real Holy Spirit itself will stand by and let us sin (see spirit coming in, Acts 2.4, John 20.22, vs. sins even after, 1 Corin. 10.5, John 21.18, “Cephas”/Peter a “hypocrite” Gal. 2.13, etc.).

Indeed, as some in the book of Job asked, who can be considered good, next to God himself?   And so finally, “all” in heaven are to fall (Isa. 34.4); all the “host of heaven” (Isa. 24.21).  Even the greatest Christians saints like St. Paul, admit they themselves are not “perfect”; Paul said, regarding perfection, that he had not yet “attained” it (q.v.).

Bad things in the holiest religious kings, like Saul; even David; bad things in leaders (Isa. 3.12).

Religious “law” (Gal. 3.13; 2 Corin. 3.6-7), and outdated “old covenant”s or contracts between God and men can be bad: “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.  For truly, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished” (Mat. 5.17-18); but … “heaven will vanish like smoke” (Isa. 51.6).   “Sinful passions aroused by the law” (Rom. 7.5, 3.20); Christ is the end of the law” (Rom. 10.4); “a man is not justified by works of the law” (Ga. 2.16, Gal. 3.2-5; “all who rely on works of the law are under a curse” (Gal. 3.10; “self-control; against such there is no law” (Gal. 5.23); “the law made nothing perfect” (Heb. 7.19); “the law has but a shadow of the good things” (Heb. 10.1).  The “perfect law, the law of liberty” (James 1.25).  “The written code kills” (2 Corin. 3.6).”Jesus the surety of a better covenant” (Heb. 7.22).  “A new covenant” (Heb. 8.8, 12.24); “even the first covenant was not ratified” (Heb. 9.18).  See God saying he made bad ordinances and laws earlier:

“I the LORD am your God….  But the children rebelled against me…. I gave them statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not have life; and I defiled them through their very gifts in making them offer by fire all their first-born, that I might horrify them; I did it that they might know that I am the LORD”  Ezk. 20.20-21, 26 RSV).

Bad things in promises of miracles:  “There has been no day like it before or since, when the LORD hearkened to the voice of a man” (Josh. 10.14).  “Do all work miracles? … But earnestly desire the higher gifts.  And I will show you a still more excellent way” (1 Corin. 12.29-31).  See false promises, false prophesies … which are often false promises of miracles after all.  So that finally, we are to ask those who promise them, to actually produce them … or be called an “abomination,” a hopeless bad and evil and false religious leader.   (See Science, below). See also the prophet who works false “signs” etc..

Bad things in patriarchs (criticism of Moses by Paul; Rom. 10.5; see also “dispensation of death” 2 Corin. 3.6-15;  Rom. 7). “The written code kills” (2 Corin. 3.6).  “The dispensation of death” (q.v.).

Bad things even in the “perfect“:   “O Tyre, you have said, ‘I am perfect in beauty….  The east wind has wrecked you (Ezk. 27.3, 26).   If “the law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul” (Ps. 19.7), “I have seen a limit to all perfection” (Ps. 119.96); “if perfection had been attainable … what further need would there have been for another priest” (Heb. 7.11).  “For we all make many mistakes, and if any one makes no mistakes in what he says he is a perfect man .. .But no one can tame the tongue – a restless evil, full of deadly poison” (James 3.2, 8). To the Christian churches:  “I have not found your works perfect” (Rev. 3.2).  “The law made nothing perfect” (Heb. 7.19).  The perfect does not come till the end of time:  “when the perfect comes” (1 Corin. 13.10).  The only perfect law is the law of liberty:  “The perfect law, the law of liberty” (James 1.25).

Even prayers have problems (Josh. 10.14; see Jesus or Paul on public prayers with “vain repetitions”).  “There has been no day like it before or since, when the LORD hearkened to the voice of a man” (Josh. 10.14). Often “God pays no attention to their prayer” Job 24.12. No doubt the prayer of the “righteous” is effective (James 5.16); but who is righteous? More problems: 1 Corin. 14.14: my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful. Ps. 80.4; Prov. 28.9; Isa. 1.15; Lam. 3.8; John 16.26-17.9; Jer. 14.11; Mat. 6.6-7, 9.38).

Then look at specific references to:  bad things in priests. Including – but not limited to – priests without “knowledge,” (Isa 5.13, 28.7, 45.20; Jer. 8.10; Lam. 4.13; Mal. 2.1-8; Heb. 7.11; Hos. 4.1-6; Jer. 14.18, see also 23.25; Ecc. 7.12).  These were warnings not just about priests in other religions either; but those in Judeo Christianity too:  “The high priest then questioned Jesus” (John 18.10); “And the chief priests and the scribes were seeking how to arrest him [Jesus] by stealth, and kill him” (Mark. 14.1). “He would not be a priest at all” (Heb. 8.4).  See the priest vs. the Good Samaritan (Luke 10.31).  “With you is my contention, O priest” (Hos. 4.4).  “I reject your from being a priest to me” (Hos. 4.6). And these things are to persist though the era of our own Christian priests; till the end: “An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land:  the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes?” (Jer. 5.31).  “From prophet to priest, every one deals falsely” (Jer. 6.13).  “Both prophet and priest are ungodly” (Jer. 23.11). “If perfection had been attainable … what further need would there have been for another priest” (Heb. 7.11).  “This was for the sins of her prophets and the iniquities of her priests .. They wandered, blind, through the streets” (Lam. 4.13-14). While even the “household of God” itself is bad (1 Peter 4.12-17).  Though priests say others are worse, God himself did not say that; it was only speculated, as a question. A good “Samaritan” can be better than a rabbi or a priest.

Bad things in prophets  (Jer. 23.15-40 & 27.16;  Isa 28.7; Lam. 4.13; Ezek. 13; Zech. 13; Deut. 18.20; Mat. 7.15 & 24.11-24; Mr 13.22; Lk 6.26; 2 Peter 2.1; 1 John 4.1).   “Your prophets have seen for you false and deceptive visions; they have not exposed your iniquity” (Lam. 2.14). “This was for the sins of her prophets and the iniquities of her priests .. They wandered, blind, through the streets” (Lam. 4.13-14). 

False religious rabbis/ “teachers” (James 3.1 etc; John 1.28-49. The rabbi vs. the Good Samaritan).  False churches (Mat. 12.6; 1 Corin. 4 14 ff; Gal. 1.6-3.1; Eph. 4-5);  false apostles (including St. Paul himself – Phil. 3.12; 2 Corin. 11.16 – Peter in Mat. 16.23;  Mat. 26.34). 

And especially, false “spirits” (1 John 4.1):  “Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world.”  “A spirit of jealousy comes upon him” (Num. 5.14).  “An evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul” (1 Sam. 19.9).  “How did the Spirit of the LORD go from me” (1 Kings. 22.24).  “The spirit of God is in my nostrils” (Job 27.3) … but “The breath of our nostrils, the LORD’S anointed, was taken in their pits” (Lam. 4.20).  Even good spirit can be taken; see too bad spirits:  “the unclean spirit” (Mat. 12.43, Mark 1.23, 6.7; Luke 8.2-29, 9.42, 11.24).  You are not good “unless one is born of water and the Spirit” (John 3.5); ” gave them a Spirit of stupor” (Rom. 11.8). 

Bad things in shepherds (Zech. 1.4-13.7; Ezek. 34).  Even of the house of David and Jessie? (Isa. 21.20 – 22.25).

False “Day” and other “stars”  (Isa. 14.12-21).  “I Jesus have sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches.  I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star” (Rev. 22.16 – but “How you are fallen from heaven, O day Star, son of Dawn! … You are brought down to Sheol, to the depths of the Pit.  Those who see you will stare at you, and ponder over you:  ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble'” (Isa. 14.12, 15-16).  “The stars will fall from heaven” (Mat. 24.29).  See false leaders from the house of David; “pegs” that give way (Isa. 22.22ff).  False, blind “servants” of God (Job. 4.18, Isa. 42.19 etc; even the saints, apostles, “all” in heaven are bad (Job 15.15 KJE; “holy ones” RSV). The “host” of heaven is to fall (Isa. 34.4).

Reputed wise men are really “fools”; “honorable” men are really bad “knaves” (Isa. 32.5). 

Written laws, code, are wrong and fatal:  “Not with ink but with the Spirit” (2 Corin. 3.3); “The written code kills” (2 Corin. 3.6).  See Scripture, below.


All Other Alleged Special Saving “Gifts,” Graces


Additional gifts?  Whenever, churchgoers discover shortcomings in the major elements of religion, every preacher or church picks up some other, almost random thing from the Bible, and tries to make it into a special gimmick; some allegedly special gift or grace, that will always help when all else fails.  But if you look each of these up in a concordance, you will find that each of them have something wrong with it, or is not enough, or often fail or are taken away, by God, at some time or another. 

So for example:
 1) even the “anointed” priest can “sin”; 2) even those who take the Eucharist, the Lord’s Supper, communion, with Jesus himself, even with their hand on his table, can sin later, and betray him; 3) likewise the “blood” therefore fails us, and indeed the Jewish God told us never to consume blood; 4) even the “elect” can be “deceived” it seems; 5) even “righteousness” can become unrighteousness, or we can be “righteous overmuch”; 6) “Grace” can be lost, and the “staff” called “Grace” “broken”; 7) “sanctification” has problems and can be spoiled or forgotten (Num. 20.12; 2 Ch. 30.3); 8) “offerings” and 9) “sacrifices” (“The sacrifices of the wicked is an abomination”; Prov. 21.27, Jer. 6.20; etc.; “offerings” Mal. 2.3),
on the 10) “altar” can be refused by God.  Likewise, there are problem with 11) “church“es; 12) “tradition“; 13) “pillar”s; 14) “rock“s; 15) the word “sacraments” come from “oaths,” which Jesus tells us not to make;  16) while “mysteries” are after all things uncertain and vague and therefore unreliable; of various 17) spiritual “gifts,” or charisms, there is almost always one higher;     (q.v)..  And there are problems with 18) relics, good luck charms, sacred objects like “cross”es, etc.; which can become “idols”; thought of like the forbidden
“pieces of wood” and bone thought to have powers; as if a piece of wood could speak.  (See church on “superstition”).  Then too, 19) God they sometimes say answers all prayers; but God can refuse to hear many “prayers.”  20) Likewise, there are many kinds of “baptism” ... and even the best is not enough by itself; since you have to be born of “water” and the “spirit.”  21) Even “discernment” is not enough; since people with this can be “taken,” deceived, even in the “discernment”s and “wisdom” (Prov. 19.12? Isa. 44.18).  Likewise, 22) “doctrine”s; 23) “dogmas” “infallible” or otherwise; and 24) special things communicated “orally,” or by the “tongue” or related to that, 25) “tongues.”  Even 26) “the cross” in itself, as an object, or when duplicated, becomes a mere piece of “wood” or “idol”; while the sentiment associated with it – self-sacrifice – can at times be bad or unnecessary too (when we seek “prosperity” and fruitfulness).  Then too 26) liturgies are full of prayers and words, that can go astray.  Likewise 27) even the “perfect” we will see.  Then 28) “covenant”s come and go.  Then too there are problems in various types of 28) “body” and/or flesh.   

All these things are spoken of at times as good in the Bible; but then later the Bible mentions limitations in them.

While 29) in addition to all the parts of the Bible itself that note problems, failures in these and all other allegedly special saving graces, practical experience teaches us that many who have had one or more of these, do in real life, still often seem to fall, sin,
and do or experience, bad things.  You can take Holy Communion, and yet still have bad,  impure thoughts, and even sin mightily, right after, in the parking lot.  Today the Church recognizes that most of these are not good, unless you have 30) the simple will to be good. But in that case, why not just acquire the will or work on your will … rather than playing around with such placebos, false
idol intermediaries? See also 31) problems with virgins (Isa. 47.1-5-15); and 32) a Mary who does not understand, but has to ask what things mean.

All these, the Bible itself says, can fail, or be falsified or spoiled. In addition to problems with major things like “faith,” “Christ,” “church,” “spirit,” “Holy Spirit,” “scripture,” and so forth.  Finally, the best option is Gods “science.”  Which is itself not perfect either; but which is advocated in the Bible in hundreds of ways; and which we add is always systematically humble, and aware it can be fooled, and is never absolute; that if must always seek evidence for its claims; and that is its great strength.



Bad Influences in Christianity


Then, infecting religion, Christianity proper … check the Bible on the various elements of Magic that, we were warned, would infect religion, including Christianity.  From related persons, magician-priests, like …  astrologers (Dan. 2.27); augers (Deut. 18.10), enchanterers (Ps. 58.5; Isa. 47.9-12; Dan. 1.20), fortune-tellers, magicians (Dan. 2.27; Rev. 13, 22.15; cf. the Three Wise Men or Magi/magicians), necromancers, soothsayers (Deut. 18.10), sorcerers (Deut. 18.10), witches, wizards.  Or related false “wise men” (Dan. 2.27; cf. the Three Wise men, “magic,” magicians). Including not just the overt magician Bar Jesus; but especially the Christ, the false Christ, seems associated with magicians, magic, and illusions and lies or false dreams, images, hopes, spirit.

Bad preachers, who believe in magical miracles – and others like “false prophets” – cause:  false promises, empty words, illusions, delusions (2 Thess. 2.11; Isa. 41.29, 19.13, 44.20; Jer. 10.15, 51.18; Ezek. 13.8), lies, enchantments, false dreams, false images (Isa. 40.20; Jer. 50.38; Dan. 3.10; Rev. 13.14ff),  empty consolations. False prophesies (cf. miracles, spirit) not from God or the Lord.




Here we honor the Bible. But does the Bible honor itself? Is the Bible reliable? If all those involved in religion can be false, then can their writings – scriptures – be good?   In a sense, “the Bible” is never mentioned in the Bible.  And indeed Paul and others told us that “all scripture” is good. But which scriptures was he talking about? And how good? Some say that our fallible apostles were temporarily protected from error, by the “inspiration” of the Holy Spirit. But God warns of false spirits and devils, presenting themselves; perhaps as the Holy Spirit.

It seems there are many false, bad writings, scripture; including false things even in our own Bibles it seems to some. For references to problems with, changes in,  holy “scriptures,” scribes, books, letters, empty words, promises, prophesies, or East “wind,” things “written” in stone, sayings, things that are said, language – including often, the New Testament writings of Christian saints and Apostles, like Paul, too –  see our Scripture chapter.  Citing, especially, John  5.39; Jer. 8.8; 2 Corin. 3.6-8; Gal. 3.22 NRSV; Rom. 7.6; Heb. 7.18-19; Ez. 20.25-26.   Then:  Gen. 11.9 ff; Job 13.4, 13.1ff; Isa. 6.18, 34.4; Ez. 20.25-22.28; Jer. 8.8, 23.23-31; Lam. 4.13-19; Prov. 1.4-6; Wis. Sol. 19.14-18; Ecc. 3.1-6; Zeph. 3.9; Mat. 3.7, 5.17-18 vs. 2 Pet. 3.10, 7.21 ff, 9.16ff, 16.19, 13.10, 13.33-35, 13.52, 23.14, 23.23, 23.1; Mark 2.7-20-22; 4.11-20; Luke 16.1-25, 10.1-20, 16.25, 21.25; John 3.39, 10.6, 16.12-25, 21.25; Acts 9.18; Rom. 1.14-15, 2.14, 2.29, 3.20-23, 7.6-10, 12.1-2, 14.4; Heb. 7.18-19, 11.19; 2 Corin. 2.15, 3.3-8, 4.2-4, 10.10, 12.17; Gal. 3.13-22, 4.24; Phil. 2.12-13; 1 Thess. 5.21; 2 Thess. 2.2-15; 1 Peter  2.13-17; 2 Peter, 1.9, 3.15-18; 1 John 4.1-3; Rev. 6.14, 2.2.  Vs. John 10.35; Rom. 15.4; 1 Tim. 4.13; 2 Tim. 3.16, 4.16; 2 Pet. 1.16-18; Rev. 22.18-19.  Specifically:  false or inadequate or suspicious gospels:  (Gal. 1.6-8).  False letters purporting to be from Paul, (2 Thess. 2.2.) “Not with ink but with the Spirit” (2 Corin. 3.3); “The written code kills” (2 Corin. 3.6). Paul admits he is not “perfect”… even as he is writing his half of the Bible. James likewise admits that he – “we all” – make “mistakes.”

Many preachers try to say that our scripture, our Bible, could be perfect, even though written by imperfect men, because the Holy Spirit came into them, and made them perfect while they were writing scripture.  Thus, according to this doctrine of “inspiration,” imperfect or bad saints and holy men, could become good, could write perfect scripture.  However, God warned there were “false spirits” (1 John 4; Isa. 29.24); and that sometimes very bad things disguised themselves, as very good things; “Satan” himself comes to us disguised as the “angel of light” (q.v.).  Therefore, we cannot be sure whether saints really were hearing the Holy Spirit … or a false spirit, posing as the Holy Ghost. 

Those priests, apologists, theologians, who have always covered this up, hidden this from themselves, and from the people, the churchgoers, should read warnings about apologists; who are “whitewashers” of errors in religion (Job 13.4). There are warnings about false Christs, churches, and even scripture.  Even “all” scripture (Rom. 3.23;  John 5.39; John 21.25; Jer. 8.8). 

Even prayers have problems (Josh. 10.14; see Jesus or Paul on public prayers with “vain repetitions”).



Not “Faith”

For these reasons, the Bible ultimately did not stress “faith” in religious leaders, churches, or their pronouncements, sermons, about God or Christ.  Instead, the Bible itself told us to “test everything” in religion, even the holiest scripture, with “science”; to find if it gets real material results, wonders, “fruits,” or not.  And if not, we are not supposed to follow it, but reject it as a word that God did not actually say (Deut. 18.20 ff).

For biblical references to the command, by God, to found religion on science, more than faith, see our Chapter 3 – Science-Based Religion, was Ordered by God; Not “Faith-Based”; “Test Everything.”  Because there are always false and bad things, even in our angels and saints, as God said, to find the truth, we were not supposed to “faith”fully follow anyone on earth, or follow church or holy man, just on faith.  (James 2.14 ff; 1 Thess. 3.10; 2 Peter 1.5; Rom. 4.14; Rom. 14.1; 1 Corin. 13.3 ff; Gal. 3.12).  We are to have no more faith than a “grain of mustard seed” (Luke 17.6).


“As for the man who is weak in faith, welcome him” (Rom. 14.1).

“Faith , hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest … is love ” (1 Corin. 13.13).

“Your faith is in vain” (1 Corin. 15.14-17).

“We are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight” (2 Corin. 5.7).

“The law does not rest on faith” (Gal. 2.12). 

“Supply what is lacking in your faith” (1 Thes. 3.10).

“Faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead” (James 2.17, 24, 26).


Those who “walk by faith and not by sight” are note, far from the Lord.  Those who can “see” God in real material things … are much closer to God.

For scriptural references finally, to the final destruction of heaven, and the appearance of a “new heaven,” see our first chapter, the Destruction of Heaven; citing mainly Jesus in Mark 13.31-2; then 2 Peter 3.7-14; Isaiah 34.1-10 & 24.1-21; Rev. 6.12, 9.1, 8.12, 12.4, 21.1; Mat. 24.  For Muslims:  Koran 11.108, 14.48.   

See also the literally hundreds of references in the Bible, and Quran, to a “day” or “fire” and “judgment”; the day when the Lord comes to earth, to judge and destroy evil; the Day of the Lord; Judgment Day; the End Time; the Apocalypse.  Including Isa. 2.2; Mal. 3.2; Mat. 24.22; Mark 13.31; Acts 17.31; 2 Peter 3.8; Rev. 21?

These are just a few of our seventy and more references, from the Bible itself, to false and bad things in religion, even in Christianity especially.  But then to God’s command to use science, to find out what the false things are.








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