God’s Science v. 7.4 Resurrection Bibliography


The Destruction of Heaven – And

The Resurrection of God on Earth,

Through the Science of God




References in the Bible

To “False” Things in Christianity;

Indicating the Desirability of an Apocalyptic


(Edited to page 3 of 26, 8/18/2010)


Part 1

Warnings By God

Of False Things In

All Our Holiest Men and Angels and Churches;

Bad things in All Christian Priests, Ministers,

And “Inspired” Doctrines


One Apocalyptic “day,” you are supposed to acquire “judgement,” and see, “face” God, Good, truly at last. This is the well known “Judgement Day. But not so well known, are two or three neglected elements in the End Time, and perhaps Judgement Day itself: in that shattering day, 1) we are supposed to be informed of longstanding sins – even in our religion. God is supposed to show is sins and errors, even especially in our holiest men and doctrines. And errors even in our perception of “God” and “Christ.” And finally, in that shattering moment, 2) our heaven itself is supposed to collapse (Rev. 21.1; Isa. 34.4; 2 Peter 3).

The moment when we see sins in our holiest men and angels and church doctrines, is a devastating moment. But it has a very positive side; since, in the same moment we also come to see at last, a “second” coming, a second, better, “new heaven.” A better heaven; one that comes down to this material earth. To realize real prosperity here on this material earth, at last (Rev. 21 ff).

One day, we are supposed to see longstanding sins in our holiest men and angels; and in that moment our heaven itself may collapse. But in that same moment, we are to see a “new” and better heaven, come down to earth. And amazingly, that foretold, Apocalyptic “day,” can begin to happen, can begin to happen even today, for many of us; right now.

Here and now, in our present book, we will show that our holy men, preachers, typically read to us only misleading PARTS of the Bible; the parts that stressed the authority, the apparent righteousness, of holy men and angels, the authority of religion. But here and now, we are going to at last see another side of the Bible, and a sort of special “code” in it. Noting that the Bible itself was not so sure about even the highest apostles and doctrines; noting first of all that 1) the Bible itself said there were longstanding and continuous sins, errors, in essentially “all” our holiest Christian churches and doctrines.

Here we will see first of all, dozens, hundreds of neglected passages from the Bible, warning over and over, about sins and errors, in essentially all priests, prophets, angels, holy men, and churches. And to be sure, it is (a perhaps literally?) heaven-shattering, Apocalyptic shock, to see such sins, deep in everything we were told is holy and perfect. But finally, we will see, there is an immensely positive side to this. Even as our childhood heaven of “faith” in holy men, faith in “miracles” and “spirituality,” seems to be collapsing down around our ears, even as our heaven itself seems to be collapsing … oddly enough, this does not demolish, but actually confirms, the Bible itself. Oddly enough, the Bible itself told us that one “day” our heaven itself is supposed to be demolished, “dissolved”; and furthermore, all in order to show us a “new,” “second” and better vision, a Second Coming of God and Christianity. Which are emerging not in the “spiritual” religion of preachers however; but in the emerging new, Science of God.



What the Bible Really, More “Full”y Said,

About Religious Authorities, Priests and Prophets


What we will see here, will be an Apocalyptic shock to many readers; readers who were raised in their faith, by preachers – priests and ministers – who told them that the Bible assured us that our holy men and their doctrines, were fully reliable; sacred and holy, or even perfect. And our preachers quoted parts of the Bible, that seemed to tell us that indeed, St. Peter and his Church for example, were a “rock” of solidity, that will “never fail”; that would prevail against the “gates of Hell” itself. But here and now, we are about to show that our Christian priests and ministers, did not quite read the Bible to us with complete accuracy. There was a major, self-critical theme in the Bible, in religion, that priests and ministers, always denied.

In church, it turns out, holy men have always read to us, just misleading parts of the Bible; especially, when we doubted our holy men, they read to us parts of the Bible, that seemed to tell us that our preachers and holy men, are absolutely reliable and good.  But here and now, we are about to show that our preachers left out, or “twisted” or “whitewashed,” seventy or a hundred key elements in the Bible. Elements that warned, specifically, that there would always be bad and “false” things, in all holy things; bad things even in the heart of Christianity.

The shattering fact, is that even Jesus himself, and the disciples, warned over and over, of bad things throughout religion; bad things, even in early Christianity itself. The shattering fact is that the Bible itself warned of bad things in even the disciples that wrote our Bibles; bad things in them, right from the start. Bad things, not just in the apostles’ personal behavior, but also … in each and every aspect and doctrine of even the religion, the “Christianity,” they were attempted to outline.

Could it be true? Could there be sins and errors, even throughout all of Christianity? Its most sacred and holy men? And Churches? Sins even in their holiest, most inspired doctrines? In fact, today is the “day” for you to discover, a new side of the Bible, of God. To see a part of God that priests denied and hid or “twisted.” Today it is time 1) to look at and at last “see,” from the Bible itself, the seventy or a hundred or more times, the Bible warned about bad and “false” things, even in the very heart of Judaism and Christianity themselves.

But then too, 2) after that, it will be time to see complementary references in the Bible, to the desirability, of converting from the collapsing heaven of “blind” “faith” in religious authority, to learn instead, a new science, a new vision, of God. A new view of Christianity – which may even be after all, part of the foretold “second” and better “appearance” or “parousia,” the Second Coming, of God.




Here is a good bibliography, showing where the Bible warned of continuous sins, in every aspect of our Judeo-Christian religion. The Bible warning of sins in basically “all” our holiest men, churches, and doctrines; even from the days of Adam, and then Jesus himself.


1) “All have sinned.” First, for scriptural references to false and bad things in “all” of religion, even in the Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition:  the Bible itself says, there are sins, errors, in effectively “all” religion“All have sinned” (Rom. 3.23);  “if we say we have no sins, we deceive ourselves” (1 John 1.8); “if we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar” (1 John 1.10). 

Indeed, as we will see here, even “all” our religions – including Christianity – are full of bad, “false” things; “false prophets” (Jer. 23.23 ff, etc). 


2) There were sins and errors, even in the very angels and saints in our “present” Christian heaven itself are bad (Job 4.18; 13.4; 15.15; Rev. 12.7, etc.). “All” have sinned.  So that one Apocalyptic “day,” even “all” in heaven are to fall:


“All the host of heaven shall rot away, and the skies roll up like a scroll.  All their host shall fall, as leaves fall from the vine, like leaves falling from the fig tree. For my sword has drunk its fill in the heavens; behold, it descends for judgement…” (Isa. 34.4-5). 

“The heavens … that now exist have been stored up for fire…” (said Peter, in 2 Peter 7.7).


Churches and preachers like to tell us, that whenever God notices sin or error in holy men, that means sins in everybody ELSE, except our own preacher or church, today. But the Bible says there are sins in “all.” And it becomes clear that means sins, even in the saints and angels in heaven.  And, if there were sins in our holiest men in heaven, and their most “inspired” doctrines,” then of course, that means that our preachers today, who followed heaven, will have erred too. This is verified by a hundred independent references throughout the Bible, to sins in each and every aspect of religion, Christianity, the Churches.


  1. For example, after God warned of sins in generally, “all” people, even all in heaven, note specific warnings from God about, say, bad things in angels. Whose name means messengers from heaven. But even our angels, our messengers from heaven, sinned:  “Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven” (Rev. 12.7-8 Revised Standard Version); “Even his angels he charges with error” (Job 4.18); “all the host of heaven will rot away” (Isa. 34.4).  and “God did not spare the angels when they sinned” (2 Peter 2.4); “To what angel has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand’?” (Heb. 2.5).  “It was not to angels that God subjected the world” (Heb. 2.5). Satan in fact was an angel; and to this day, “Satan disguises himself as an angel of light” (2 Corin. 11.14). The Bible therefore advocating “Neither death, nor life, nor angels” (Rom. 8.38). When someone bows down to an angel, this happens:  “Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, ‘You must not do that!  I am a fellow servant with you and your comrades…. Worship God!” (Rev. 19.10 NRSV). This is indeed the great sin in churchgoers:   they are following, worshipping the words of priests, who are angels, “messengers” from God … but they forget that most messengers, angels, are unreliable:  worship God himself, as he exists apart from all merely human or even angelic messengers, and what they said of him.

And if these messengers allegedly from God, are the foundation of the Church? Note that even the angels of the Churches were often bad: “To the angel of the church … I have not found your works perfect in the sight of my God” (Rev. 3.2, also 2.4, 2.13-14-16, 2.18-20; 3.14-19).


  1. God often warned about false “apostles,” plural; more than a) Judas (John 21.20-24).  Shockingly, shatteringly, God warned about bad things in the Twelve Apostles by name. For example: b) St. Peter, the first Pope, the “rock” of the Church, once told Jesus that Jesus was wrong in something, “rebuking” Jesus (Mat. 16.22). And c) then, therefore, Jesus revoked his endorsement of Peter; Jesus calling St. Peter “Satan,” in Mat. 16.23:  “He turned and said to Peter, ‘Get behind me, Satan!  You are a hindrance [“stumbling block”] to me; for you are not on the side of God, but of men.'” 

In fact, d) the Apostle St. James admitted, of himself and other apostles no doubt:  “we all make many mistakes” (James 2.2).  Then e) St. Paul admitted he himself, at the time when he wrote his part of the Bible, was “not … perfect” (Php. 3.12). While, regarding “James the son of Zebedee, and f) John his brother” (Mat. 10.2), “the mother of the sons of Zebedee came up to him and asked … ‘Command that these who dons of mine may sit, one at your right hands and one at your left, in your kingdom.’  But Jesus answered, ‘You do not know what you are asking … to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant.'” (Mat. 20.20).   Confirming Jesus – who called Peter “Satan,” and noted he would “deny” him many times –  Paul too noted problems with St. Peter or  “‘Cephas’ (which means Peter)” (John 1.42): “When Cephas [Peter] came to Antioch I opposed him to his face, because he … acted insincerely” (Gal. 2.11, 13).  

At times, preachers will try to say that churches and others “test”ed apostles, and found out that SOME were false; so the churches left those, and books attributed to them, out of our Bibles:  indeed, Revelations congratulated those who “tested those who call themselves apostles but are not, and found them to be false” (Rev. 2.2).  But here we show that probably ALL of even the original twelve disciples were bad; all the disciples for example, fled and abandoned Jesus, when the Romans came to arrest him (Mark 14.50). 


  1. Indeed therefore, there are many false boasts and claims in religion, in Christian churches, and their claims to perfection (Isa.15.6). But these are Vanity and Pride; simple “boasting” only.


  1. Christ? No doubt, following Christ himself will help us. But the absolutely crucial problem for all “Christians,” is this: which idea of Christ is the right one?
    This indeed is the worst problem in Christianity, of all the many nearly-fatal problems there: the Bible warned that many false christs, false ideas of Christ, would are, and mislead everyone. “False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the
    elect” (Mark 13.22). “If some one comes and preachers another Jesus than the one we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you submit to it readily enough” (2 Corin. 11.4). 

Even a “Christ” can be bad: see warnings about false or “anti” Christs too (1 John 2.18-4.3).  “False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect” (Mark 13.22).  “If some one comes and preaches another Jesus than the one we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you submit to it readily enough” (2 Corin. 11.4). 

There are warnings about false christs – and even surprisingly, warnings even of Jesus himself: Gal. 3.13; “Christ redeemed us from the cure of the law, having become a curse for us – or it is written, ‘Cursed be every one who hands on a tree.” At times Jesus even may have warned about, doubted, himself: in Mat. 19.17:  “Why callest me good” KJE. But especially, Jesus almost never said he was the Christ, but only asked others “who do you say I am.” While on the cross, Jesus assumed that God had abandoned Jesus; suggesting Jesus himself was not the promised Christ, to some. etc.). 

In any case, no one today can be absolutely sure he or she is following the right idea of Christ. The Bible itself warned that a “false” Christ was already in the mix, from the very, very earliest days of Christianity: many false or “anti-Christ”s has already come, even in the time of Christ or John:  “many antichrists have come…. They went out from us” (1 John 2.18,19).  (John thought these followers of a false idea of Christ, were “not of us”; and my churches say that they therefore, escape this apostasy, and followed “us,” the real message from John and others. But actually, it is presently impossible to know which are the true followers of John. While in any case, Jesus himself would not promise any particular status, even to John himself.  Regarding “James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother” – Mat. 10.2 – “the mother of the sons of Zebedee came up to him and asked … ‘Command that these who dons of mine may sit, one at your right hands and one at your left, in your kingdom.’  But Jesus answered, ‘You do not know what you are asking … to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant.'” Mat. 20.20). 


  1. Bad, false Christians. Thinking you are a “Christian” therefore does not save you; because perhaps a) even MOST of those who think they are following “Christ,” can be following a false idea of him; a False Christ. Or then too, even if you have found the right idea of Christ, still, b) you might fail to follow him out of human weakness (the spirit failing, as noted below). Many c) specifically, who cry and acknowledge the “name” of Christ, “Lord, Lord,” are hypocrites, or deceived. Indeed, Revelations warned that essentially the whole world would be found to have been mislead, even in its best idea of who or what the best religious leader was (Rev. 13.8).


  1. Churches. There are false things in every aspect of religion; even “Christianity.” Even our “Christ” will inevitably, be partially misleading. Can our churches therefore, save us? And if some churches tested disciples and allegedly weeded out the bad ones? In fact, all disciples and churches were themselves bad and unreliable; “all have sinned.” While in addition, note, essentially all churches are bad too. Even the churches who did such “test”ing were themselves, Revelations itself notes, not perfect in every way. The early Christian/Catholic/Orthodox church at Ephesus, which did the testing, was commended by God in some ways, but then, was opposed by God in part:  “But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love that you had at first” (Rev. 2.4); while other elements of other early Christian churches were also not “perfect” in every way (Rev. 3.2).  Note too, in our section on “angels,” God warning that even the very angels of the first Christian, Catholic or Orthodox churches, were not “perfect,” etc…

Most priests and churches claim that they, or their church, have weeded out any false things.  But related to the above and below, there are things even in the first, holy Christian churches overseen even by apostles in person
(Rev. 2.4, 2.20, 3.2; all of Galatians, etc.   “To the angel of the church … I have not found your works perfect in the sight of my God” (Rev. 3.2, also 2.4, 2.13-14-16, 2.18-20; 3.14-19).  So “do not trust in these deceptive words, ‘This is the temple of the LORD'” (Jer. 7.4).

Regarding the need for physical church buildings, or “temples”? The Bible often questioned it. First, a) will God need to live in a house built with human hands, asks Solomon; b) Jesus had to clean out the temple – and then spoke of tearing a physical temple down, and rebuilding it not with another structure, but his own body, in three days: as c) confirmed by Paul, who said  “Do you now know that you are God’s temple” (1 Corin. 3.16).  Paul also suggesting too, that it was not the building, but the people that are the “body” of Christ; Paul d) also telling us, regarding churches and creches, that “God does not live in shrines made by men” (Acts 17.24).


  1. But how reliable are even the congregations? If the very angels, the Twelve Apostles themselves, and the very earliest churches themselves, are unreliable, then … clearly no Christian church or preacher today, based on these early churches, could be totally reliable either. And indeed, the Bible tells us too that, apparently “Christ”ian believers and congregations, a)
    often “hypocrites.” Those try to acknowledge God, crying “Lord, Lord,” are often hypocrites; looking for false things in others, criticizing others for the “speck” in their eye … they ignore the “beam” in their own eye (q.v.).  

Or worse, b) even those Christians, who are sincere in trying to follow Christ, are often following a mistaken idea of Christ; a “false Christ.”

As we will see therefore, there are problems with even “faith”; because there are so many false things in religion, Christianity, trying to loyally follow Christ himself, faithfully, does not really work. Many are following a false idea of Christ. So that though they think they are good, many who think they are “first” in the eye of God, are found “last” in the End; and though Christians “judge” themselves to be good followers, they themselves will be judged in the End.  Ultimately, only God himself knows who is following the right idea of Christ; who is therefore really good, and who is bad; only God judges in the Last Judgment.

Congregations (Titus 1.12-13; Gal. 1.2-8; Revelations 1-3), make mistakes; just as  “we all make mistakes,” as James said. For more references, see also the Bible on false things “among us” in Peter, etc.. Note too the “present” heaven of Christianity is destroyed too; see also 2 Peter 2.1, Jude 4, false things “among you.” 


  1. Are there some believers, churchgoers, protected from such errors, by some other special “gift” or virtue or “grace”? Many churches assert this. But we find below, that no special qualities absolutely protect anyone whatsoever. For example, suppose one is one of the “elect”? “False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect” (Mark 13.22). 

Priests often claim that they themselves, or their own specific congregations or church, are protected from error, if they have this or that specific good quality or gift. Some for example think that if they quote Jesus, his “name,” they are protected from sin or error (after 1 John 4? Acts. 2.21);  but … Jesus said many would call “Lord, Lord,” and yet still be wrong (Luke 7.21).  And (Luke 6.46, 13.25), it is not just because they say the name, but don’t do the deeds; it is also … because most who thought they were following God, will be found to actually have been following a “false christ.” 


  1. As for councilors? There are bad “councilor”s or counselors (Sirach 37.8).  Parts of the Bible suggested that God would send the Holy Spirit as an effective “councilor”; but see our writing here, on spirits, the Holy Spirit; there are problems there too.


  1. And of course, we are confronted with an admixture of elements of false religion, Magic, in our religion too; the Bible warned of problems from pleasant but “deceitful” “enchantments,” “illusions,” “delusions,” of magicians” and “sorcerers,” even issued in the name of religion, of Christ (Isa. 47.1-12-16, etc.).


  1. Will “faith” then save us? Should we simply ignore all apparent problems in Christianity, and continue on, with “faith”? As it turns out here and elsewhere, actually the Bible itself warned that “faith” has its limitations, and will usually not save us at all; because we end up all too often, just all-too-faithfully following false priests, false ideas of Christ and God.

Should we ignore all these warnings about bad things in our traditional Christianity, and continue to follow as we are told, having simple Faith nevertheless? When we seem to notice bad things in our holy men and angels, often they tell us we are supposed to ignore that, and continue to follow them, based on simple “faith” in them. But that isn’t what the Bible said. Because there are always false and bad things, even in our angels and saints, as God said, to find the truth, we were not supposed to “faith”fully follow anyone on earth, or follow church or holy man, just on faith.  (James 2.14 ff; 1 Thess. 3.10; 2 Peter 1.5; Rom. 4.14; Rom. 14.1; 1 Corin. 13.3 ff; Gal. 3.12).  We are to have no more faith than a “grain of mustard seed” (Luke 17.6). So that:


“Faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest … is love ” (1 Corin. 13.13).

“Your faith is in vain” (1 Corin. 15.14-17).

“We are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight” (2 Corin. 5.7).

“The law does not rest on faith” (Gal. 2.12). 

“Supply what is lacking in your faith” (1 Thess. 3.10).

“Faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead” (James 2.17, 24, 26).

“As for the man who is weak in faith, welcome him” (Rom. 14.1).


Unexpectedly, here we will find that those billions of Christians who “walk by faith and not by sight” were actually, note, “far from the Lord.” They were not really doing what God really wanted.


  1. And of course, we are warned about false gods (Isa. 41.23-4 etc.). Including false ideas of our own Judeo-Christian god. We are warned especially about false words, false scripture; words falsely attributed to what God said; “thus saith the Lord.” (See also our notes on false things in scripture).


  1. What in religion can we trust then? Many women especially think our “hearts” can lead us. But God says there are problems with hearts; which are often “deceived” and so forth (Gen. 6.5, 42.238; Ex. 7.13, 9.14; Numb 32.9; 2 Sam. 15.6; Job 15.35; Ps. 10.3, 12.2, 73.7; Prov. 6.14-18, 10.2; Mat. 15.19; Mark 7.21; Rom. 1.21; James 4.8).


  1. Can “heaven” itself save us? Amazingly, since there are problems with every aspect of religion – even with the angels and the apostles and the saints in heaven, as noted above – finally, there are even bad things in heaven itself; indeed to the point that heaven itself is to be destroyed; citing mainly Jesus in Mark 13.31-2; then 2 Peter 3.7-14; Isaiah 24.21, 34.1-10 & 24.1-21, 51.6, 64.1-66.22; Rev. 6.12, 9.1, 8.12, 12.4, 21.1; Mat. 24; 1 Kings 8.27.  For Muslims:  Koran 11.108, 14.48.  See also the literally hundreds of references in the Bible, and Quran, to a “day” or “fire” and “judgment”; the day when the Lord comes to earth, to judge and destroy evil; the Day of the Lord; Judgment Day; the End Time; the Apocalypse.  Including Isa. 2.2; Mal. 3.2; Mat. 24.22; Mark 13.31; Acts 17.31; 2 Peter 3.8? (See also the “household of God”).

For scriptural references finally, to the final destruction of heaven, and the appearance of a “new heaven,” see our first chapter, the Destruction of Heaven; citing mainly Jesus in Mark 13.31-2; then 2 Peter 3.7-14; Isaiah 34.1-10 & 24.1-21; Rev. 6.12, 9.1, 8.12, 12.4, 21.1; Mat. 24.  For Muslims:  Koran 11.108, 14.48. 

See also the literally hundreds of references in the Bible, and Quran, to a “day” or “fire” and “judgment”; the day when the Lord comes to earth, to judge and destroy evil; the Day of the Lord; Judgment Day; the End Time; the Apocalypse.  Including Isa. 2.2; Mal. 3.2; Mat. 24.22; Mark 13.31; Acts 17.31; 2 Peter 3.8; Rev. 21?


  1. Even the Holy Spirit can be faked, by a “false spirit,” no doubt (see “spirits.” But also Satan as “light,” a spirit?, 2 Corin. 11.14 etc.. Therefore we should not trust that the Holy Spirit is guiding us, but “test the spirit”(s) to see if they are really the Holy one or not. While even then, even with the real, genuine Holy Spirit standing beside us, still, even the real Holy Spirit itself, will at times stand by, and let us sin (see spirit coming in, Acts 2.4, John 20.22, vs. sins even after, 1 Corin. 10.5, John 21.18, “Cephas”/Peter a “hypocrite” Gal. 2.13, etc.). Many people receive the Holy spirit – and still sin after that (like the Israelites, following even the “rock” and spirit of Christ, in the desert,1 Corin. 10.4).


  1. So who is good in Christianity on earth? Perhaps no one; who, as some in the book of Job asked, who can be considered good, next to God himself?   And so finally, “all” in heaven are to fall (Isa. 34.4); all the “host of heaven” (Isa. 24.21).  Even the greatest Christians saints like St. Paul, admit they themselves are not “perfect”; Paul said, regarding perfection, that he had not yet “attained” it (q.v.).


  1. Are our holiest religious kings, like Saul; even David; even Solomon, wholly good leaders? The Bible notes sins in all of these. And things in religious leaders (Isa. 3.12).


  1. How about Judeo-Christian “law”s and doctrines and so forth (Gal. 3.13; 2 Corin. 3.6-7). Even they, and outdated “old covenant”s or contracts between God and men can be bad. To be sure, at times we thought they were permanent and good: “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.  For truly, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished” (Mat. 5.17-18); but then after all, “heaven will vanish like smoke” (Isa. 51.6).  

At least Old Testament laws seem to be spoken against: the New Testament referring to “sinful passions aroused by the law” (Rom. 7.5, 3.20); Christ is the end of the law” (Rom. 10.4); “a man is not justified by works of the law” (Ga. 2.16, Gal. 3.2-5; “all who rely on works of the law are under a curse” (Gal. 3.10; “self-control; against such there is no law” (Gal. 5.23); “the law made nothing perfect” (Heb. 7.19); “the law has but a shadow of the good things” (Heb. 10.1).  “The written code kills” (2 Corin. 3.6).

To the “law,” the New Testament sometimes referred to the
“new” and better covenant of Jesus; the kinder “grace” of Jesus; the “perfect law, the law of liberty” (James 1.25).”Jesus the surety of a better covenant” (Heb. 7.22).  “A new covenant” (Heb. 8.8, 12.24); “even the first covenant was not ratified” (Heb. 9.18). 

Amazingly, God admits that God made bad ordinances and laws, at times: “I the LORD am your God….  But the children rebelled against me…. I gave them statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not have life; and I defiled them through their very gifts in making them offer by fire all their first-born, that I might horrify them; I did it that they might know that I am the LORD”  Ezk. 20.20-21, 26 RSV). And because of many problems with even the authors of the New Testament, there can be problems even with new covenant, Christian, New Testament rules and laws too. (As we see here with regard to “Scripture” especially).


  1. About half of Christian was based on promises that if we are good, we will get amazing physical – not just spiritual – “miracles.” But how reliable are they? As it turns out, there are bad things, even in promises of miracles. Though a) at times they were promised whenever we “ask” for them, other times the Bible suggested they seldom or never in fact, arrive reliably: “There has been no day like it before or since, when the LORD hearkened to the voice of a man” (Josh. 10.14).  Or b) it is suggested there are higher, better gifts: “Do all work miracles? … But earnestly desire the higher gifts.  And I will show you a still more excellent way” (1 Corin. 12.29-31).  Then too, c) there were many biblical warnings about false “promises,” false “prophesies”; which would often imply more false promises of miracles after all.  So that finally, d) we are to ask those who promise them, to actually produce them, in front of witnesses … or be called an “abomination,” a hopeless bad and evil and false religious leader.   (See “Science,” below). See also warnings about the prophets and other false religious leaders, who work false “signs” etc..

The traditional Christian belief in making things appear out of thin air, like a rabbit in a magician’s hat, belief in sentient statues and so forth, was finally, falling victim to belief in Magic and magicians. It was what the Bible warned about. Belief in miracles was belief in magic, infecting religion, Christianity proper. Check the Bible, here on the various elements of Magic that, we were warned, would infect religion, including Christianity.  From related persons, magician-priests, like …  astrologers (Dan. 2.27); augers (Deut. 18.10), enchanters (Ps. 58.5; Isa. 47.9-12; Dan. 1.20), fortune-tellers, magicians (Dan. 2.27; Rev. 13, 22.15; cf. the Three Wise Men or Magi/magicians), necromancers, soothsayers (Deut. 18.10), sorcerers (Deut. 18.10), witches, wizards.  Or related false “wise men” (Dan. 2.27; cf. the Three Wise men, “magic,” magicians). Including not just the overt magician Bar Jesus; but especially the Christ, the false Christ, seems associated with magicians, magic, and illusions and lies or false dreams, images, hopes, spirit.

Reading Jesus’ miracles literally, or even spiritually, created a false idea of Jesus, of Christ; a “false prophet.” It created the foretold  “false promises,” “empty words,” “empty consolations.” Traditional Christian “faith” in them, was actually only the foretold false belief, in magicians, and their magical “illusions,” “delusions” (2 Thess. 2.11; Isa. 41.29, 19.13, 44.20; Jer. 10.15, 51.18; Ezek. 13.8), “lies,” “enchantments,” false “dreams,” false images (Isa. 40.20; Jer. 50.38; Dan. 3.10; Rev. 13.14ff),  “empty consolations.” False prophesies (cf. miracles, spirit) not from God or the Lord.

The Bible, read traditionally – as promising physical miracles, or spirits, spiritual things – WAS turned into a magic book.


  1. Many bad things in Judeo-Christianity, go back in part, the New Testament suggested, to the oldest Jewish holy leaders, the patriarchs. Like Moses and their promised and their “law.” With “the written code,” the laws of Moses, that “kills” (2 Corin. 3.6). Thus there were bad things, even in the holiest ancient patriarchs like Moses; who was never allowed to enter the promised land. See the criticism of Moses by Paul; Rom. 10.5; see also “dispensation of death” 2 Corin. 3.6-15;  Rom. 7. The era of Old Testament law and Moses, was at times called even “The dispensation of death” (q.v.).


  1. But some will say, the Bible told us that some things at least, are “perfect.” Yet strangely, the Bible eventually warned that there are bad things, even in the things that were proclaimed as “perfect”:   “O Tyre, you have said, ‘I am perfect in beauty….  The east wind has wrecked you (Ezk. 27.3, 26).   If “the law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul” (Ps. 19.7), still, “I have seen a limit to all perfection” (Ps. 119.96); “if perfection had been attainable … what further need would there have been for another priest” (Heb. 7.11).  “For we all make many mistakes, and if any one makes no mistakes in what he says he is a perfect man… But no one can tame the tongue – a restless evil, full of deadly poison” (James 3.2, 8). To the Christian churches:  “I have not found your works perfect” (Rev. 3.2).  “The law made nothing perfect” (Heb. 7.19).  The perfect does not come till the end of time: “when the perfect comes” (1 Corin. 13.10).  The only perfect law is the law of liberty:  “The perfect law, the law of liberty” (James 1.25).


  1. Even prayers have problems (Josh. 10.14; see Jesus or Paul on public prayers with “vain repetitions”).  “There has been no day like it before or since, when the LORD hearkened to the voice of a man” (Josh. 10.14). Often “God pays no attention to their prayer” Job 24.12. No doubt the prayer of the “righteous” is effective (James 5.16); but who is righteous? More problems: 1 Corin. 14.14: my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful. Ps. 80.4; Prov. 28.9; Isa. 1.15; Lam. 3.8; John 16.26-17.9; Jer. 14.11; Mat. 6.6-7, 9.38). Even prayers have problems therefore: see Jesus or Paul on public prayers, and prayer with “vain repetitions.” Often God says our prayers are in vain.


  1. There are countless warnings about bad, evil things, even in our holiest things therefore. So what should we therefore finally think, of our priests and ministers? Who told us to follow the Bible, to follow unreliable religious leaders, so faithfully? To answer this another way, suppose we look at the dozens of specific warnings from God, about bad things in priests. Including – but not limited to – a) priests without “knowledge,” (Isa 5.13, 28.7, 45.20; Jer. 8.10; Lam. 4.13; Mal. 2.1-8; Heb. 7.11; Hos. 4.1-6; Jer. 14.18, see also 23.25; Ecc. 7.12).  These were warnings, too, were NOT just b) about priests in other religions either; but c) those in Judeo-Christianity too. Indeed the priests as much as anyone, were responsible for killing Jesus: “The high priest then questioned Jesus” (John 18.10); “And the chief priests and the scribes were seeking how to arrest him [Jesus] by stealth, and kill him” (Mark. 14.1).

Parts of the Bible suggest that a good person therefore, “would not be a priest at all” (Heb. 8.4).  See, indeed, the parable of the bad priest and rabbi, vs. the Good Samaritan, a non-priest, and not even a Christian believer (Luke 10.31). 

God often opposed priests therefore, because they often mislead the people: “With you is my contention, O priest” (Hos. 4.4).  “I reject you from being a priest to me” (Hos. 4.6). “From prophet to priest, every one deals falsely” (Jer. 6.13).  “Both prophet and priest are ungodly” (Jer. 23.11). “If perfection had been attainable … what further need would there have been for another priest” (Heb. 7.11).  “This was for the sins of her prophets and the iniquities of her priests…. They wandered, blind, through the streets” (Lam. 4.13-14)

Furthermore, all these problems with bad things in our holiest things, even especially priests, did not exist just in the PAST; bad things in religion, in priests and ministers, are to persist. Evils in priests and ministers, start in the past. But then they persist, through our own era, in our own Christian priests; till the End of Time: “An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land:  the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes?” (Jer. 5.31). 

Evil things in priests and ministers, are to persist though our Christian era; and indeed for that matter, even the (in part priestly?) “household of God” itself, is hinted to be bad, even in New Testament times (1 Peter 4.12-17). 

Finally, therefore, we should not rely much on priests; indeed, even a good non-believer, who does good works, a good “Samaritan,” can be better than a rabbi, or a priest.

Priests and ministers therefore, are not reliable. (See the Bible on “ministers” too).


  1. Priests and angels are therefore, unreliable. So can we trust even Biblical “prophets” therefore? Insofar as we can trust it, the Bible itself constantly warned about bad things in prophets (Jer. 23.15-40 & 27.16;  Isa 28.7; Lam. 4.13; Ezek. 13; Zech. 13; Deut. 18.20; Mat. 7.15 & 24.11-24; Mr 13.22; Lk 6.26; 2 Peter 2.1; 1 John 4.1).   “Your prophets have seen for you false and deceptive visions; they have not exposed your iniquity” (Lam. 2.14). “Now their visage is blacker than soot, they are not recognized in the streets…. Happier were the victims of the sword….This was for the sins of her prophets and the iniquities of her priests…. They wandered, blind, through the streets” (these are the first real “suffering servants,” Lam. 4.8-9, 13-14). 

As it turns out too, the warning about prophets, holds for new prophets to come, even after Jesus, as well (q.v.; concordance. In general, to research all these figures, look up all the references to them in a concordance; and note the negative references among positive ones).


  1. There have been many false or bad things throughout religion, therefore, the Bible said; including say bad, false religious rabbis/ or “teachers” (James 3.1 etc.; John 1.28-49. The rabbi vs. the Good Samaritan).  And this would be implied too, in the warnings about, about false churches (Mat. 12.6; 1 Corin. 4 14 ff; Gal. 1.6-3.1; Eph. 4-5);  false apostles (including St. Paul himself – Phil. 3.12; 2 Corin. 11.16 – Peter in Mat. 16.23;  Mat. 26.34). 


  1. Saints? The Bible says even the angels, apostles, or “saints” in heaven, will sin (q.v. Job 15.15 KJE).


  1. Scripture? Here we honor the Bible. But does the Bible honor itself? Is the Bible reliable? If all those involved in religion can be false, then can their writings – scriptures – be good?   In a sense, “the Bible” is never mentioned in the Bible.  And indeed Paul and others told us that “all scripture” is good. But which scriptures was he talking about? And how good? Some say that our fallible apostles were temporarily protected from error, by the “inspiration” of the Holy Spirit. But God warns of false spirits and devils, presenting themselves; perhaps as the Holy Spirit.

Here we follow the Bible, scripture. But finally the Bible even questions itself. The Bible contains many references to false, bad writings, scripture; including false things even in our own Bibles, it seems to some. Here, search the Bible for references to”: problems with, changes in,  holy “scriptures,” “scribes,” books, letters, empty “words,” empty and false promises, prophesies, or East “wind,” things “written” in stone, sayings, things that are said, language. Include here warnings about even the New Testament disciples; and we now add, their writings.  Consider here, especially, John  5.39; Jer. 8.8; 2 Corin. 3.6-8; Gal. 3.22 NRSV; Rom. 7.6; Heb. 7.18-19; Ez. 20.25-26.   Then:  Gen. 11.9 ff; Job 13.4, 13.1ff; Isa. 6.18, 34.4; Ez. 20.25-22.28; Jer. 8.8, 23.23-31; Lam. 4.13-19; Prov. 1.4-6; Wis. Sol. 19.14-18; Ecc. 3.1-6; Zeph. 3.9; Mat. 3.7, 5.17-18 vs. 2 Pet. 3.10, 7.21 ff, 9.16ff, 16.19, 13.10, 13.33-35, 13.52, 23.14, 23.23, 23.1; Mark 2.7-20-22; 4.11-20; Luke 16.1-25, 10.1-20, 16.25, 21.25; John 3.39, 10.6, 16.12-25, 21.25; Acts 9.18; Rom. 1.14-15, 2.14, 2.29, 3.20-23, 7.6-10, 12.1-2, 14.4; Heb. 7.18-19, 11.19; 2 Corin. 2.15, 3.3-8, 4.2-4, 10.10, 12.17; Gal. 3.13-22, 4.24; Phil. 2.12-13; 1 Thess. 5.21; 2 Thess. 2.2-15; 1 Peter  2.13-17; 2 Peter, 1.9, 3.15-18; 1 John 4.1-3; Rev. 6.14, 2.2.  Vs. John 10.35; Rom. 15.4; 1 Tim. 4.13; 2 Tim. 3.16, 4.16; 2 Pet. 1.16-18; Rev. 22.18-19.  Specifically, consider references to false or inadequate or suspicious gospels:  (Gal. 1.6-8).  Also false letters purporting to be from Paul, (2 Thess. 2.2.) “Not with ink but with the Spirit” (2 Corin. 3.3); “The written code kills” (2 Corin. 3.6). Then consider indirect evidence even against the Bible itself: Paul admits he is not “perfect”… even as he is writing his half of the Bible. James likewise an author of part of the Bible, admits that he – “we all” – make “mistakes.” While we find that “inspiration” of the Holy Spirit does not end those mistakes, even when writing the Bible.

Many preachers try to say that our scripture, our Bible, could be perfect, even though written by imperfect men, because the Holy Spirit came into them, and made them perfect while they were writing scripture.  Thus, according to this doctrine of “inspiration,” imperfect or bad saints and holy men, could become good, could write perfect scripture.  However, God warned there were “false spirits” (1 John 4; Isa. 29.24); and that sometimes very bad things disguised themselves, as very good things; “Satan” himself comes to us disguised as the “angel of light” (q.v.).  Therefore, we cannot be sure whether saints really were hearing the Holy Spirit … or a false spirit, posing as the Holy Ghost. 

Priests, apologists, theologians, have always covered up, hidden the parts of the Bible and God, warning about holy things. Preachers have hidden this from themselves, and from the people. But here and now, churchgoers, should read warnings about apologists; who are “whitewashers” of errors in religion (Job 13.4). There are warnings about false Christs, churches – and even scripture.  Even “all” scripture (Rom. 3.23;  John 5.39; John 21.25; Jer. 8.8).  Read more closely in this way, the Bible in effect, all but deconstructs, cancels, itself.


  1. Servants? See problems with servants; even the suffering servant, thought to be a prefiguration of the suffering Jesus, is partially from Lamentations 4.8-17 – where the sufferers suffer, because they are bad.


  1. If these finding here, at times seem to contradict our holiest men? We will find that reading the Bible more closely, finds that almost every apparent lionization, advocacy of religious leaders, etc., is sooner or later qualified, neutralized, in the Bible itself. Even calling some religious leaders good “shepherds” is neutralized, by many things; including references to bad things in shepherds (Zech. 1.4-13.7; Ezek. 34).  Even of the house of David and Jessie? (Isa. 21.20 – 22.25).


  1. Especially, consider God warning about false “spirits” (1 John 4.1). It is often assumed today, that the New Testament emphasized spirituality; and told us that the Holy Spirit and its guidance or “inspiration” as it was called, would at last, escape the errors of the Jewish Old Testament, and guide us to a better covenant, a better sense of the Christians’ God.  But in fact, this central doctrine from priests and churches, is false; God warned constantly about false things in “spirits,” and inadequacies even in the Holy Spirit (above).

In general, God constantly warned about “false spirits.” And then God explicitly told us not to have too much faith or belief in spirits therefore, but “test everything” (1 Thess. 5.21; Gen. 42.15; Ps. 11.5; Ecc. 7.23; especially Dan. 1.4-15; Zech. 13.9; 1 Corin. 3.13; especially 1 Thess. 5.21; 1 Tim. 3.10; 1 John 4.1; see “science”), to see if it is a true spirit or not.

And so God commands not faith, but skepticism: “Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world.”  “A spirit of jealousy comes upon him” (Num. 5.14).  “An evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul” (1 Sam. 19.9).  And these bad things in religion, as not just in the PAST either; the New Testament especially noted bad spirits in its own time, and ours:  “the unclean spirit” (Mat. 12.43, Mark 1.23, 6.7; Luke 8.2-29, 9.42, 11.24).  You are not good “unless one is born of water and the Spirit” (John 3.5); ” gave them a Spirit of stupor” (Rom. 11.8). 

Even those who might have had an authentic spirit from God, can lose it: “How did the Spirit of the LORD go from me” (1 Kings. 22.24).  “The spirit of God is in my nostrils” (Job 27.3) … but “The breath of our nostrils, the LORD’S anointed, was taken in their pits” (Lam. 4.20).  Even good spirit can be taken away.


  1. Can it be true? Can even priests and prophets and apostles have often failed us? Finally, even the highest and brightest “stars” in Christianity, in heaven itself, have often secretly failed us. First, typically, the Bible offered positive statements about our holy men:  “I Jesus have sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches.  I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star” (Rev. 22.16). But the general pattern of the Bible that our priests do not tell us about, is this: after offering positive statements about priests and holy men, it often qualified or all but withdrew those positive statements. As for example, here, regarding our religious “stars”: “How you are fallen from heaven, O day Star, son of Dawn! … You are brought down to Sheol, to the depths of the Pit.  Those who see you will stare at you, and ponder over you:  ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble'” (Isa. 14.12, 15-16). 

For centuries we were taught in church to revere our religious leaders, religious stars. But amazingly, the Bible warned about this. Telling us that one “day,” even “The stars will fall from heaven” (Mat. 24.29). 

See also warnings about false leaders from the house of David; “pegs” that give way (Isa. 22.22ff).  False, blind “servants” of God (Job. 4.18, Isa. 42.19, esp. suffering servants Lam 4.8-16 etc.) While finally, we found here, even the saints, apostles, “all” in heaven are bad and fail us (Job 15.15 KJE; “holy ones” RSV). So that ultimately, even the “host” of heaven is to fall (Isa. 34.4; Rev. 20 – 11-21.1).


  1. Reputed wise men are often really “fools”; “honorable” men are really bad “knaves” (Isa. 32.5).  Though priests assert they are the “true” wise men, the Bible warned that no one should think themselves wise.
  2. Will “Worship,” worshipping God, save us? Can even “worship”ing God, save us? Our preachers assured us over and over it would. And yet, while parts of the Bible advocate worship, other parts warned that after all, just worship in itself is not good enough; the hard part, is to know that there are many false things that are presented in life, as coming from God; so we must determine which religious doctrines,which idea of God and which “Christ,” to worship. Because in fact, the very worst people in the world often present(ed) themselves to us, as the holiest men, angels, prophets, from God himself. Indeed, one “day” when “judgement” comes, we are supposed to discover that the whole world was deceived in what it worships as God and Christ. Since the whole world has followed a False Christ, a false idea or presentation of God and Christ (Rev. 13.8-14, 28.23, etc..).


  1. Written religious laws, “doctrines,” codes, do not even firmly, unequivocally help us; even they are often wrong and fatal:  salvation is writ “Not with ink but with the Spirit” (2 Corin. 3.3); “The written code kills” (2 Corin. 3.6).  As we note in our section on Scripture.




Early Conclusions


There are Biblical warnings of bad, especially “false” things, in every single aspect of religion, Christianity, and churches. But how can we survive and face this awful realization? Here finally, we offer the solution that is biblical: a spiritual reading of the Apocalypse. Which goes this way: one Apocalyptic “day,” we are supposed to acquire “judgement”; and discover that the whole world has already long been already deceived, in its best idea of God and Christ. And indeed, we are discovering that here and now, today.

Specifically, our priests have mislead the whole world, by quoting only misleading “parts” of the Bible (1 Corin. 12.15 – 13.12); our priests deceitfully stressed only the parts of the Bible, of Christ, that seem to tell us our priests and prophets are absolutely reliable, and should be followed with total “faith.” While actually however, now we are suddenly seeing, with heaven-shattering clarity, that our priests and churches all deceived us with a false picture or image of Christ; the fact is, Jesus himself constantly warned that there are always false things in our holiest men and angels; and therefore, we were never supposed to follow them with such total faith at all. Instead, we will see, we were supposed to “test everything” in religion, with “science” (Dan. 1.4 KJE), to expose the many false things in it.

Indeed, we were warned that one “day” we would notice many false things in our holiest men and angels and priests. And amazingly, here and now, we are discovering it: our priests and ministers misrepresented the Bible to us. They quoted to us only the parts of the Bible that seemed to stress the authority of priests and ministers and holy men; but our preachers deceitfully left out, or “twisted,” the many parts of the Bible that warned that our priests and holy men were often false.


As indeed we find them finally, false, here.



Other Additional Gifts, Graces, and

Allegedly Sure, Saving Things In Christianity? 


Here we have looked at a few dozen, of the major elements, of traditional Christianity: from “angels,” and “apostles,” to “priests,” and “worship.” These are the things that are presented to us every day in Church, as being the wholly good things, that will save us. But when we looked at them more closely here, actually we found, that our preachers had read to us only misleading, positive parts of the Bible on these subjects; our priests deceived us, and did not tell us that the Bible itself warned ultimately that none of the elements of Christianity, were entirely good or reliable, at all.

But to be sure, this is a heaven-shattering “revelation” or shock. And many cannot
“face” or “bear” this vision of God and Good. And so, whenever a churchgoer discovers a few of these shortcomings in the major elements of religion, in our preachers and churches, to try to “twist” or “whitewash” this – and themselves – almost every preacher or church, next tries to find some more, other, almost random things from the Bible, some other novelty, that they can allege, IS perfect, or WILL save us.

Over the centuries, churches have scoured the Bible for something truly reliable; or some random element that doesn’t seem criticized by God much; and then one church or another, will fix on one element or another, to try to make it into a special gimmick; some allegedly special gift or grace, that, the church can claim, WILL always help save us, even when the other major elements of Christianity fail. 

We do not have the time to cover each here, fully. But, if a reader looks up each of these new alleged special “gifts” and “graces,” up in a concordance, he or she will discover that each even of THESE allegedly new and special gifts, each has something wrong with it.

So for example, how about …:



  1. Anointing“? Will this absolutely save you? If you look up this word in a Bible index, or “concordance,” you will find that … even the “anointed” priest can “sin” (Lev. 4.3).
  2. Likewise, there are many kinds of “baptism” ... and even the best of them is not enough by itself; since you have to be born of “water” and the “spirit.” While spirits, themselves again, can be false.
  3. Likewise, say, the “blood” of Jesus can fail us; even after taking communion, and receiving the “blood” or wine of Christ, we can still sin and err. While for that matter, the Jewish God, the Old Testament, told us never to consume blood, or meat with blood in it. (Then too, regarding eating Jesus: the Bible abhorred not only consuming anything with blood in it, but also especially cannibalism; Lam. 4.8-10 etc.).
  4. Are our bodies good enough? Is even the bread, the “body of Christ” in the Eucharist, enough to save us? As it turns out, there are problems in various types of “body” and/or flesh.   All these things are spoken of at times as good in the Bible; but then later on, the Bible mentions limitations in them. John 6.63: “the flesh is of no avail.”
  5. Likewise even sacred “covenant”s come and go.  The covenant between God and Abraham, is modified by the “new covenant” of Paul. And so forth. While people bread covenants too; and the covenants are voided by God.
  6. Even “the cross” in itself, as an object, or when duplicated, becomes a mere piece of “wood” or “idol”; while the sentiment associated with it – self-sacrifice – can at times be bad or unnecessary too (when we seek “prosperity” and fruitfulness). Jesus on the cross, felt that his crucifixion was a sign that God had “abandoned” him.
  7. Even “discernment” is not enough; since people with this can be “taken,” deceived, even in the “discernment”s and “wisdom” (Prov. 19.12? Isa. 44.18).
  8.   Churches like to claim that even if their priests are bad, their “doctrines” at least are “inspired,” and perfect. But the Bible warned of problems with even inspiration, we noted here; and with “doctrine”s (Job 11.4, Mat. 15.9; etc.); and …
  9. “Dogmas” “infallible” or otherwise share common problems with doctrines. And …?
  10. Will we be saved by the Eucharist, or the Lord’s Supper? Everyday experience tells us that even those of us who take the Eucharist, the Lord’s Supper, communion, can make mistakes after that. Indeed those disciples who had supper with Jesus himself in person, even with their hand on his table, could sin later, and betray him.
  11. Then too, of vague spiritual “gifts” or charisms, not all have them; “Do all possess gifts of healing?” (1 Corin. 12.30). And there is almost always one gift higher (1 Corin. 12.3). Then too “one who exacts gifts ruins it” (Prov. 29.4). And there can be false things about gifts: “I defiled them through their very gifts” (Ezk. 20.26). And there are problems even with …
  12. “Grace.” At times Grace is said to be “sufficient” for our needs (2 Corin. 12.9). But other times, it is said
    can be lost; you can fall out of grace (Gal. 5.4). And even the apparently firm “staff” of “Grace” can be “broken” (Zech. 11.10);
  13. Many suggest that liturgies, Church services, can always save us. But they are full of prayers, and words; while the Bible warned dozens of times, that both prayers and religious “words,” can go astray.  If Jesus “the word” is himself good, still, we can always misunderstand him, his words.
  14. While
    even sacred “mysteries” are, after all, things uncertain and vague; and therefore unreliable. Perhaps related to the “confusion of tongues.” Then too …
  15. “Offerings” and “sacrifices” can fail too (“The sacrifices of the wicked is an abomination”; Prov. 21.27, Jer. 6.20; etc.; “offerings” Mal. 2.3 on the “altar” can be refused by God.  Likewise…
  16. Special teachings communicated “orally,” can be as false as the people, the false prophets, that utter then. While related to the unreliability of spoken words, the Bible warned specifically about the “false” things about the “tongue.” Or related to that, “tongues.”  “You choose the tongue of the crafty” (Job 15.5); “they flatter with their tongues” (Ps. 5.9); etc..
  17. “Pillar”s are often spoken against by the Bible: “do not set up a pillar, which the LORD your God hates” ( Deut. 16.22). Even the metaphorical “pillars” of the church, the apostles, sin and err, and be found to be insincere hypocrites (Gal. 2.9)
  18. Relics, and good luck charms, sacred objects like “cross”es, etc., made of wood, can fail us too. They can become “idols.” Like the forbidden
    “pieces of wood” and bone of idols; inanimate objects thought to have magical/miraculous powers; as if a piece of wood could speak.  (See the church on “superstition”).  Then too,
  19. Even “righteousness” can “become unrighteousness”; or we can be “righteous overmuch”;
  20. Even the “rock” of our religion, can fails us; (see problems with Peter the “rock,” in Mat. 16.23; even Moses on the rock does not see God’s “face” in Ex. 33.20; after 1 Tim. And there are problems even with Jesus, as the “rock,” still failing us, in the wilderness (1 Corin. 10.4).
  21. The word “sacraments,” comes from “sacred” “oaths.” But Jesus tells us not to make oaths; and just let our “yes be yes,” and our simple “no,” mean no; 
  22. Even “sanctification” has problems; and can be spoiled or forgotten (Num. 20.12; 2 Ch. 30.3);
  23. And regarding religious, church Tradition? Will it always be good? If you look up every reference to this word, in a concordance, a Bible index, you will find there are problem with religious “tradition“;
  24. There are even problems with virgins (Isa. 47.1-5-15). And specifically, even a virgin Mary who does not understand, but has to ask what things mean. And who defers therefore to men like Jesus.
  25. Finally, the simple will to be good, might seem to some people, to hold up; to be good enough. And good will goes a long way. But even here, often our good will, part of our spirit, often goes wrong. Many of the worst things in history, were done by do-gooders; people who willed to do good … but whose idea of the “good” was wrong. So that precisely when they did “good,” bad things happened.

While in any case, even our “will” is often not strong enough, and can fail. (Against the demands of the body, lusts of the flesh, etc., our will to control them often fails; see Rom. 7.18 etc.).

And furthermore, it is not, as priestly apologists claim, that the various special gifts are good; and only fail if our own “will” fails, moreover. The fact is, even if our will is strong, even if we follow the alleged special gifts, those gifts often fail, just in themselves. Our quick survey here, shows that the Bible warned there are intrinsic flaws, lacks, in each and every one of these alleged special graces. Just in themselves; totally apart from any strength or insufficiency, in our faith in them, or our will to follow them.

  1. Finally, indeed, in addition to all the parts of the Bible itself that note problems, failures in these and all other allegedly special saving graces, practical experience teaches us that many who have had one or more of these, do in real life, still often seem to fall, sin,
    and do or experience, bad things.  In addition to scriptural warnings about holy things, practical experience confirms this: that for example, you can take Holy Communion, and yet still have bad,  impure thoughts, and even sin mightily, right after, in the parking lot. 

When churchgoers complain to priests and ministers, about the lack of miracles; or when they complain that this or that alleged gift or prayer does not seem to work, priests and ministers always like to tell them, that this or that special, new gift or concept, this or that special new word from the Bible, will save us. But eventually, churchgoers, parishioners, begin noting problems in turn, with each new spiritual gimmick. With nearly each and every alleged new, special good, or concept, in religion. Even in Christianity.

The fact is, the Bible warned of “false” and bad things, frequent failures, in every aspect of religion, and probably every single alleged special gift or grace; from A to Z. From Adam and Abraham and priestly “anointing,” through problems with the “blood” and the body; doctrines and dogmas, to the “spirit” and the “will.”

Finally, even the “inspiration” of the Holy Spirit often failed; it failed even the disciples. It failed them, even when they were speaking of, acting out, early Church practices, and core “doctrines.” Even after Jesus himself, in the end of his life, “breathed” the Holy Spirit into the 12 apostles (in John 20.22), even the Twelve Apostles still failed later on. And they failed not just in their personal weaknesses, or will; they failed even in the way they defined major doctrines, by word and deed. Peter/”Cephas” telling Jesus that the crucifixion was not necessary; Peter also excluding non-Jews from communion; etc.. So that, as it turns out, against what we often hear in church, the failures of major elements of religion, even the Apostles, were not just personal failures of individuals, momentarily failing to meet good standards, and doctrines; even their most “inspired” holy doctrines and dogmas often failed, or were simply wrong, after all.

Finally, there is probably no element whatsoever in religion, in Christianity, that the Bible itself did not warn, can often fail us. And fail us, not, as preachers claim, because of lack of our own will or ability to follow them; but they fail in part, because of internal flaws, insufficiencies, in each and every individual alleged special grace or gift.



The Answer:

Learning the SCIENCE of God


The list above examines problems with a few dozen, of the hundreds of main ideas of traditional Christianity. Note that all them have internal problems within them. God said that all the major pillars of traditional Christianity, can and do fail. Even “faith” and “worship” and “spirit,” and every other allegedly extra saving grace, fails. According to the Bible itself.

God told us that there are problems with the minor virtues, like baptism and anointing and so forth; but also there are problems with the major ideas of Christianity, like “faith,” “Christ,” “church,” “spirit,” the “Holy Spirit,” “scripture,” and so forth.  So finally, the traditional Christianity or Christ, based on “faith,” that everyone heard described in Church, was not quite right.

But if all our holy men, the whole world, were “deceived” in their best idea of God and good, then what then, is the right understanding, vision, of God and Christ? Finally, we will see, the Bible delivered a better, “second” vision, second appearance, to God and Jesus. Specifically, God and Christ told us to learn a real, empirical “Science” of God. A science of religion, of life, that at last, guides us to the Truth (Dan. 1.4-15 KJE, etc.).

God constantly noted lots of sins and errors in our holiest things. And therefore, the Bible did not really want us to have such total “faith” in holy men and their doctrines; ultimately, the Bible did not stress “faith” in religious leaders, churches, or their pronouncements, sermons, about God.  Instead, the Bible itself told us to “test everything” in religion, even the holiest scripture, with “science”; to find if each doctrine, gets real, verifiable, material (not just spiritual) results, wonders, “fruits,” or not. Only if a given doctrine brings us material “fruits,” “works,” “signs,” “deeds,” and “proofs,” here in this material “earth,” in a timely way, “soon,” are we supposed to believe that doctrine or saying, was truly from God. And if following a given doctrine does not so that, we are NOT supposed to follow it faithfully. Instead, we are to reject it; having found that it was a word that God did not actually say (Deut. 18.20 ff; 1 Kings 18.21 ff).

Here, amazing, we find the whole world has been following a false idea of Christ; God did not tell us our holy men were perfect, and that we should follow them will total “faith.” Quite the contrary. Read more “full”y, we find here that Bible itself warned constantly, about false, bad, deceitful things in our holiest men and angels, and in their most “inspired” religious doctrines and sayings. And so therefore, God finally tells us that religion and Christianity, was never supposed to be “faith-based”; religion, Christianity, is supposed to be science-based 
(Dan. 1.4-15 KJE; Deut. 18.21-22; Mal. 3.10, etc.).  When we see this, the Apocalypse prophesy is at least partially fulfilled; we have 1) seen that the world was deceived, even in its “worship,” by a false vision of Christ; but 2) we have seen that false religion and its “heaven” demolished, shown to be false. While 3) God has shown us a “second appearance” or second coming, a
new heaven” of God and Good; in the new, fuller, Science of God.

Christianity is supposed to be based on science, not on faith, we find here. According to the Bible itself.

Probably we are not to “tempt” or “test” God’s patience, by putting ourselves at risk, in dangerous experiments.  But as it turns out, we are commanded to carefully, scientifically “test” everything” in life and religion (1 Thess. 5.21; Mal. 3.10; 1 Ti 3.10; Gen. 42.15; Ps. 11.5, 66.10; Ecc. 7.23; Jer. 9.7, Lam. 3.40; Dan. 1.12; Zech. 13.9.  If God seemed in some translations of the Bible to tell us that “thou shalt not test” God, other translations of the Bible better translated that, as telling us not to “tempt” God with dangerous misdeeds (Luke 4.12 RSV).  We should not “test/tempt” God’s patience, with immoralities. But in contrast, we ARE allowed, and even commanded by God, to scientifically TEST everything in religion, with real “science” (Dan. 1.4-15 KJE, Deut. 18.20 ff; 1 Kings 18.21-39).   And then to follow what real religious science tells us.

For millennia, our preachers have taught that Christianity is supposed to be based on
“faith.” But suddenly, here, we find that our preachers, and the core teaching of historical Christianity, are wrong. Actually the Bible told us that we are always supposed to critically “test” everything in religion, with science, to see if any given saying is really from God. Scientifically testing what is said to be from God, by using say, the observation of how things materially work out or “come to pass,” here, on this material, physical earth:

Far from stressing “faith” in our holy men, God warned there have been many false sayings attributed to him. And then, to find out which people and preachers and sayings “from God” are true, and which are not? God told us to use a kind of Science:


“Beware of false prophets…. You … know them by their fruits” (Mat. 7.15-20).  Then Ps. 139.7; 1 Kin. 8.23-9.2; & St. Paul; italics, mine.   

“How may we know a word the LORD has not spoken?’ – when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass, that is a word which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you need not be afraid of him” ” Deut. 18.21-22. 


Bad preachers eager to avoid being exposed by science, assure us the Bible told us not to “test the Lord your God.” But we note at length, that Jesus’ apparent command not to “test” God, is often better translated as telling us not to “tempt” God with immoralities; as in the phrase the “Temptation of Christ.”  The fact is, God not only allows but COMMANDS us, to “test” religion, test God with SCIENCE. In say, Malachi and Thessalonians:


“Put me to the test says the LORD” (Mal. 3.10).

“Test everything” (1 Thess. 5.21).

“Understanding science” (Dan. 1.4-15 KJE).


God very, very firmly commands us to “test” even God himself; he even becomes exceedingly angry it seems, when one “Ahaz” for example, refused to test him by asking for wonders (q.v.). But are these tests, just spiritual tests of some sort? At times St. Paul and others seemed to be spiritual, and to attack attention to “things on this earth” (Col. 3.1-3). But finally we will find, the Bible told us of the particular importance of using science, to examine material things, from the “earth,” with empirical science; to discover what is good, according to whether it produces real, material, physical “fruits,” “works,” “signs,” “deeds,” “proofs.” For positive biblical references to material things, see: Gen. 1.10; Isa. 1.18, 1.21-24, 6.3, 26.9, 29.4, 42.1-5, 65.16; Ps. 37.3, 104.24; Ps. 115.6; Ps. 115.16; Job 28.2-25; Sirach 37.27; John 12.25 vs. 12.47 & 3.16; 1 Corin 1.28, 10.26; Col. 1.16-20, Col. 1.19-20;  Rom. 1.20; Ps. 37.11; Matt. 8.3-4, 6.33.

For many centuries, Jesus, God, were thought to have effectively left this material existence or world; to be spiritual beings, “in heaven.” But today, when we use the Science of God, God returns to the material world again. As foretold of the second coming:


“Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of haven from God, prepared as a bride…. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, ‘Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them.” (Rev. 21.1-3 NWT).

“In him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible” (Col. 1.16).  

“Do I not fill heaven and earth?” (Jer. 23.34).



More About the Science of God


Here, we present a revolutionary, seemingly “strange new doctrine” of Christianity, God, and the Second Coming. But actually it is not really “new” or strange at all; it is found, from old, through the entire Bible. Here we have offered seventy or more quotes from the Bible itself, to show that God wanted Christianity to be based NOT on simple faith; but on a Science of God; on discovering God, through empirical observation of material nature, looking at material things on this physical earth. For more biblical proofs of this, see: Job 28.2-25; Jer. 31.35-7; Prov. 1.22; Prov. 25.2-3; Isa. 7.10-14, Isa. 1.21-24;  Mat. 7.20; Mark 2.10-12; Luke 21.24, 21.25, 21.27, 21.29; 1 John 4.1; John 10.17-18 NAB, John 14.10-12; Rom. 14.1, Rom. 8.28 NWT, Ps. 145.17; John 9.3;  Rev. 2.2, 11.1; Titus 2.16.  (Related to this, to at last here, see God supporting not faith, but science-related things like technology and practical knowledge, in say Catholic Bibles see:  Wis. Sol. 1.1-7; 7.16-17; 8.5-17 vs. 13.1-14.7; 16.17; 19.11-21.  But also see 1 Kings 4.29-33;  Dan. 1.4-15 & 2.60-81.   Finally, for a more complete survey, see our entire book on this; chapters on Science, Asceticism, and latter, Matter.)

What is presented in this very book therefore, is, as foretold, a shatteringly “new,” “second” presentation/coming of God. One that demolishes our old (sense of/ “image” of) heaven; of Christianity, of Jesus, as being faith-based.     And if this is dis- “illusioning,” then this fulfills the Bible’s Apocalypse/Second Coming/Day of Judgement. God told us that one heaven-shattering “day” of “judgment,” we are SUPPOSED to discover that 1) essentially “all” our holiest men and angels, had deceived themselves, “entranced” themselves and the whole world, with a false vision of Christ, a “false Christ” (Rev. 13.8-14 etc.). But the falseness of earlier religion, is exposed, when God at last more accurately re-presents himself; in a second and better “coming” or “appearance” (“parousia”) on this material earth. While here and now, we are going through precisely that. Here we are suddenly seeing a “second” new vision, coming, of God. Where God as foretold, unveils sins and errors in all we thought was holy. As we suddenly see God note sins in our “faith,” our first vision of Jesus. With the science of God, we at last “see,” shatteringly, the seventy or hundreds of places, where the Bible told us that many things offered in the name of Christ, are false. Where the Bible therefore told us not to base ourselves so much on “faith,” as on critical science.

Our “second” reading of the Bible, here, gives us all a “second,” better “appearance” of God; one telling us that we should not be based so much on faith in religious leaders, or their images of God. The second appearance of the Bible and God, says that “all” our holiest men and even most of their most “inspired” doctrines, sinned; so that we should have been following not blind faith, but a critical science of God.

Our second coming or appearance of God, here, reveals that, as foretold, the whole world was deceived by a false idea of Christ: specifically, the image of Christ stressing “faith,” being “faith-based,” was a false “image” of Christ; an anti-Christ. Our second and better “appearance” of God, reveals that Christ actually tells us that 1) no religious leaders were totally reliable; so that we should not to have too much faith in them or their vision of God. Instead, we are 2) all supposed to begin determining, whether words attributed to God, really are from God; by observing the physical, material good they do, on earth.

This second and better vision of God, is found in countless keywords in the Bible itself: we are to look for the real, material “prosperity” that comes or does not come, from following each saying attributed to God; its real material “fruits,” “works,” “signs,” “deeds,” “proofs,” here on this material “earth.” As “observ“ed and “test”ed with “science,” and observation of what or what “does not come to pass” (Deut. 18.20 ff), here. We are to judge what is good, what is from God, by looking to see what gets good material results, here on this material earth, and in a timely way; “soon,” “at hand,” “presently,” the “time is near,” “quickly,” in at least a “generation.”  (While rejecting St. Peter’s suggestion, that “soon” might mean thousands of years; since Jesus called Peter “Satan” in Mat. 16.23).  

The prophesied Second Coming of God, the “Day of Judgement,” therefore begins to appear, when we re-read the Bible, as urging not faith, but urging us to discover and use, over faith, God’s Science. Moving past faith, to the science of God, we find, the first outline of the foretold “second,” better, “full”er outline of God and Truth; of what is Good.  As foretold, as we join religion to science, we join heaven to earth, word to world, word to flesh again. And only this holy whole, is at last is complete, “full” enough, to work the wonders that God promised, to those who truly understand, “see,” and follow him, rightly.

As we investigate the material universe with Science, many (if not all) of us, are also, indirectly, discovering God. Even the immaterial spirit is known, God said, by looking the visible, material things invisible things, spirits, effect:


“Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made” (Rom. 1.20 RSV).


On this issue to be sure, we disagree with many preachers. Can we thus test and even “judge” as wrong, even the holiest men and angels and preachers? By the physical material works, the miracles they have done, or have not done? Actually, we can: the Bible, God commands us to do that. The Bible warned constantly that our holiest men are normally deceived, deceptive. And so, rather than follow them or their “image”s of God with total “faith,” God describes at length and in detail, in several passages, how we are commanded by God, to scientifically test even holy men, preachers especially, by their real material fruits, works, signs, deeds. In say Dan. 1.4-15; 2 Kings 18.20ff ? (Ezekiel); Malachi 2-3; Deut. etc. (See our OT section).

And if this scientific testing finds sins, inadequacies, in “all” our holiest men and angels on earth? Even all those in heaven itself? Then that very negative finding, precisely fulfills Apocalyptic prophesy: one “day” after all, we were SUPPOSED to see, precisely that result. One “day” God is supposed to uncover sins in “all,” including our priests and prophets and their “Christ.” In that moment, our childhood heaven itself, is supposed to be shattered (Rev. 21; Isa. 34). But this is a positive moment; the old is shattered to make way for the better. As the old heaven is “dissolved,” a “new heaven” is to appear; one that comes down to this material earth again too, after all.

This begins to fulfill Apocalyptic prophesy therefore: as we at last see the second and better, “full”er, more “mature” vision of God – beyond faith, in the Science of God – we see a “new heaven,” our abstract spiritual religion, God and Christ, begin to come down to this empirical, material earth, again. Even here and now. As foretold, as authorized, by the Bible itself. By God, himself.









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